1x10 indexing issues and noisy
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Degsy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:37 am    Post subject: 1x10 indexing issues and noisy Reply with quote

Hi fellas
Just gone from a 3x9 setup to a 1x10 on the following components:
Already had Deore cranks
Superstar NW 32t single cog
Zee m640 shadow plus 32/36 rear mech
Zee m640 trigger shifter
Slx hg81 11/3610 speed cassette
Shimano ten speed chain

So it all went on no problems but having real issues indexing it to how it should.
Set hi and low limit without cable tension
Set cable tension then fine tune with cable adjuster but it jumps from smallest to third cog every time either going up the range or down.
Also when on the biggest cogs it's very noisy should a 1x10 be like this or have I bought the wrong setup?
It was the zee build kit from CRC

cheers guys
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A shadow+ has an H adjusted that needs to be set. It sets how fair the guide pully is away from the cassette. You need to shift to the big ring then set a 5mm gap.

Google it if you cant fine id screw

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've set that now and it's a bit smoother but now wondering if I've taken too many links out of the chain, I done big big + 2 rule what you think?



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that is very short looking. Also you look to have a short chage mech on 36tooth(??) rear cassette? You should really have a long one.

As you get rear end travel i would think there will be problems. When the rear is compressed the chain will normally get tighter.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dave0w wrote:
Wow that is very short looking. Also you look to have a short chage mech on 36tooth(??) rear cassette? You should really have a long one.

As you get rear end travel i would think there will be problems. When the rear is compressed the chain will normally get tighter.


Nothing wrong with the mech and gear ratios on the cassette, its designed to work with the 36t (wide range version). Chain looks fine from there (mine looks the same with the same set up - Zee/Xt cassette/34t N/W ring).

Hes right about the sus compressing though, should of let the air out/compressed shock when sizing the chain.

May sound silly, but check which way you have routed the cable through the pinch bolt on the mech, if its the wrong side, it won't shift correctly and you won't index either no matter how many times you fiddle with the adjuster. Check the cassette teeth aren't wonky and throwing the chain in the combos you're have probs with, check the chain for stiff links as well.

Mines abit noisy, quietens down after a few uses, but still hear it a bit in 1st gear (your N/W ring is thicker than a std one so holds the chain abit tighter laterally).

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes me zee was the same ish.. But not as streshed as yours. I went to a deore long cage and it now all good. Just set it up this morning and its fine.

Silly question but you have a 10 speed chain right?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah its a 10 speed chain, it is the zee mech that covers gear ratio to 36. The chain was 116 links out the packet im gonna add links back on and let air out of shock and re size over the weekend im thinking the chain is too short.
as far as i can see the cable is routed correctly.

see how it goes over the weekend ill have to stop off at LBS tomorrow after work to get some chain link pins and a quick link.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degsy wrote:
yeah its a 10 speed chain, it is the zee mech that covers gear ratio to 36. The chain was 116 links out the packet im gonna add links back on and let air out of shock and re size over the weekend im thinking the chain is too short.
as far as i can see the cable is routed correctly.

see how it goes over the weekend ill have to stop off at LBS tomorrow after work to get some chain link pins and a quick link.

D.


Yer tbf my KMC was 116 links and i have a 11/36 - 36 and i didn't shorten it

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Dave
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

added some links back into the chain all is good Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degsy wrote:
added some links back into the chain all is good Mr. Green


Very Happy glad all is good.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Degsy wrote:
added some links back into the chain all is good Mr. Green



HURRRRAAHHHH!!!! Very Happy

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