Do I really need a FS bike?
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Which type of bike do you recommend?
FS second hand lower spec
28%
 28%  [ 4 ]
Hardtail new strong spec
71%
 71%  [ 10 ]
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perryBoyCW9



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Do I really need a FS bike? Reply with quote

Hi folks,

I'm sure this question will fall into classic "noobie" territory but I would value some advice nonetheless. Please be gentle Wink

The background
Basically I bought an old cheap hardtail off a friend a few months ago, mainly to see whether or not my interest would wane - and therefore to avoid making a costly error of judgement! The good news is, following regular riding - light trails at Delamere forest, river paths, fields and now the much more challenging red run at Llandegla trail centre, I'm absolutely hooked. Hence I'm looking to buy a decent bit of kit (another bike).

The quandry
Initially I was hoping to pick up a full suspension bike, but I only have £750 to spend - maximum, so obviously I'm aware that would be a pre-owned bike. I could buy something like a GT sensor 4.0 or Giant Anthem x4.0, and plan to upgrade the components over the medium term. The flip side is that for the same sort of money I can pick up a new (albeit 2012) hardtail bike, with a lot higher spec for a similar price. (I have my eye on a 2012 Cube Acid, also Pinnacle Iroko Two although this is pushing my budget). These are very appealing.

When I ride at the trail centre almost everyone seems to have an awesome full sus bike, I very rarely see hardtails there.

The question
So the real question I guess is do I absolutely need a full suspension bike? Is it a bit lame to ride a hardtail around the more challenging trails?

Advice will be very much appreciated.

Cheers
PerryBoyCW9
(Nick)

NB: I know that whatever I choose I really need to ride it, to be happy with size, riding position etc, that's a given.
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cloudnine



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are you coping on your bike now??
You dont need a FS bike.. it just makes the bumpy bits more comfortable.
Just drop your seat and stand up more.. knees make amazing shock absorbers.
Id say buy an amazing spec 2nd hand HT.
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skeets



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can ride nearly everything on a hardtail, what you can on a full suss and dont let anyone tell you any different.

BUT what the full suss gives you is a smoother ride and the abilty to go down faster, do bigger jumps, bigger drop offs etc. and gives you that bit more confindence. your delemere ride a hardtail is perfect for that, a full suss is overkill round there. but for a trail center like degla you can get more out of it with a full suss. ( horses for courses )

if your doing the red at llandegla and enjoying it and want to move up to the next level say, then yeah you need a a full suss, if your happy just doing what your doing then you dont need one as you have already proved to yourself that you can do it on your hardtail.

if the bug has bitten and this is a long term hobby you can see yourself doing then buy one as you wont regret it. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky this one - you could get a good 2nd hand full sussed for that money if you shop around and personally I much prefer them and wouldn't go back now (though if I had the space I'd love a hardtail as a 2nd bike for when I go on roads and tame paths).

As Cloudnine says, you don't "need" a full sus for what you're doing - what do you "want" though...?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9 times out of 10, it's about what you WANT.

You don't NEED a full suss for what you are doing.

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jimbo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love a full suss but bought a £950 hard tail this year as i wanted the best spec for my money. I have ridden cannock chase red and degla black and it is fine (but i don't really do jumps, just a little air really). I reckon it would be a lot more comfortable on a full suss and my mates on full suss are usually quicker downhill but i am quicker up hill. Try and hire both and see how you get on. The majority of my riding is xc so HT is fine but may get a FS in the next few years!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

betty_swollox wrote:
9 times out of 10, it's about what you WANT.

You don't NEED a full suss for what you are doing.


This is the answer.

If you really want a full suss, then you might well regret not getting one. Even if it means saving a few more pennies. If you're not bothered, then a hardtail is more than fine. Just a bit different.

I bought a hardtail with the intention of adding a full-suss to the stable later on. 4 years later I don't really have any interest in buying a full suss at all. I'll get one eventually. But in the meantime I built another hardtail for commuting, bought a road bike(!), fancy building another hardtail, I might give singlespeeding a try. Hell I might even give fat biking a go if the bad winters keep up. Then once I've exhausted all that I might get a full suss. Maybe.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for a new Hardtail. For the price , you could get quite a nice bike.

Especially off of CRC or bike-discount. Also , with a FS , there is more to go wrong and it will be a lower spec. Its up to you but for that money , a HT is the way forward IMO.

Here's a few bikes i would choose if i was going to spend around £750:

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1830/a54510/ltd-black-anodized.html

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=64551

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=75505
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cloudnine



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this cotic bfe or a soul will smash the mass produced cubes, ghosts etc out of the park

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cotic-Bfe-Custom-built-Mountain-bike-/261114 763771?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item3ccba719fb&nma=true&si=ssiL63%2B69uxFyA tAPifEobwVlQk%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Threevok



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuk

I hate it, sorry

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Orange-Crush-2010-Mountain-Bike-/32101482069 3?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item4abdf96f55

Better Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh.. rs revs, XT everything, Hope wheels and m4 brakes and and awesome 853 reynolds steel frame for £800.
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betty_swollox



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threevok wrote:
Yuk

I hate it, sorry


Are you blind?Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, it's horrid

HANG ON

That's a different bike now to the one that was there before

the last one was a horrid grey thing

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloudnine wrote:
Eh.. rs revs, XT everything, Hope wheels and m4 brakes and and awesome 853 reynolds steel frame for £800.


As I said, that's not the bike on the orginal link

The orinal was grey horrid and started at £1000

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Threevok wrote:
cloudnine wrote:
Eh.. rs revs, XT everything, Hope wheels and m4 brakes and and awesome 853 reynolds steel frame for £800.


As I said, that's not the bike on the orginal link

The orinal was grey horrid and started at £1000
Threevok's right. The one that was up there before was gopping. You weren't quick enough with the edit, cloudnine.
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