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Stri



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Mountain Bike Chain Fitting Reply with quote

Hi there,

A friend of mine has a good mountain bike but it doesn't have a chain. I've spotted chains on ebay for less then 10.

The problem is (as I understand it) is that I need a specialist tool to remove some of the links in order to make the chain fit.

Obviously I don't want to fork out (no pun intended) for a tool which I'll only use once. Is there any way around this problem?

Cheers

Stri
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can buy a chain that has a powerlink connector and no need for "special tools", it has a joining plate which holds the chain together very effectively.

The only problem is if I remember correctly, you may need to trim the chain down to the correct length for your bike, which may involve needing a "special tool" to remove the additional links.......................


have a look here;

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190269218059&cgui d=c3b9268311c0a0e204c64986ffdd6ca5

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Stri



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, thanks for the reply.

So your answer is I will need the tool to change the amount of links or does this power link remove the need for this?

Cheers

This is from wiki

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Some newer chain designs, such as Shimano and Campagnolo 10-speed chains, require a special replacement pin to be used when installing or reinstalling a separated chain. An alternative to this process is to install a master link, such as a SRAM Power Link or a Wipperman Connex.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_chain
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know how many links the standard chain fitted to this bike would have had. You could then buy a chain with that number of links complete with a power connector.

Alternatively you could just buy a chain tool.

They can be picked up very, very cheaply, about 2 Wink

Here's a pricey one in Halfords..........

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_1000 1_catalogId_10151_productId_177325_langId_-1_categoryId_165532

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Stri



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunner wrote:
Do you know how many links the standard chain fitted to this bike would have had. You could then buy a chain with that number of links complete with a power connector.


Nah, I've not seen the bike. My friend tells me it's decent but it's in bits in one of his cupboards somewhere.

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Alternatively you could just buy a chain tool.

They can be picked up very, very cheaply, about 2 Wink

Here's a pricey one in Halfords..........

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_1000 1_catalogId_10151_productId_177325_langId_-1_categoryId_165532


Yeah, a lot cheaper than I thought but I'm a very tight budget.

Thanks for your help anyway
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a fair cert that any new chain you buy will need a couple of links removing to fit properly, the powerlink is only to join the two ends together, so your still going to need a chain rivet tool.

I don't know anyway of getting by without one, though you could buy the chain from your local bike store and ask them to fit it at the same time which might save money, who knows, you might get lucky and they might have an old one hanging about.

Word of warning though, not to put you off, but new chains and old cassettes do not go well together, you might find the chain slipping a lot.

Bry

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like sound advice, thanks fella.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can remove the links once-only with a punch and hammer but I'd always recommend a good quality chain tool. Punch out both pins just a few mm rather than trying to punch out one all the way.

I never have a clip-in link to my chain when I fit them. You can open and close them quite easily using a good tool that screw-butts onto the back of the rivet.

With correct use, should last for y-e-a-r-s. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice.

I've decided I'm going to get a chain from a local shop and see if I can get them to fit it as part of the price. I think that's what should work out cheapest.

No more advice needed unless you feel my life would be made complete by your wisdom.

Thanks all for taking the time to reply

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stri wrote:

No more advice needed unless you feel my life would be made complete by your wisdom.
Stri


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it Smile

I think I'll use something similar when I find some woman retarded enough to have my children. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nanu nanu .... Question Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add, I wouldnt look at a chain tool as a one off device anyway. Even if you have a powerlink and need to trim the chain down to size its always good to have one just in case you ever have a link snap when out and about. You never know when such a device could be needed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are basically two grades of chain tool out there:-

The cheap ones like the old Cyclo, as shown here:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHAIN-RIVETT-EXTRACTOR-CHAIN-LINK-SPLITER-CHAIN- TOOL_W0QQitemZ290291896060QQihZ019QQcategoryZ109122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

.... and the good 'uns like this:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Super-B-Chain-Rivet-Extractor-Tool-RRP-12-95_W0Q QitemZ200304941299QQihZ010QQcategoryZ109122QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem


The diffo is that the good one has a hollow screw fitting at the back that tightens against the rear of the link making it virtually impossible to break, as shown at the top here;-
http://images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/fullView.asp?id=65 227956&fc=1&img=http://images.marketworks.com/hi/55/54565/chain_splitt er_5.jpg

'El Cheapo' relies in the strength of the lugs to hold the chain in place - I've broken about 12 of these over the years!

Not much diffo in the price!! Cool
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