Advice on tyres, please.
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Steve Kish



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Advice on tyres, please. Reply with quote

Occasionally, my friend and I lapse into bouts of off-road stupidity on our rigid no suspension Marins. Problem is that we tend to use either hybrid tyres or crap knobblies. I'm thinking of getting something a bit decent to avoid the occasional face-plant down hills that we shouldn't really attempt! Embarassed

Although limited in my knowledge, would a pair of wide tyres (say, Conti Gravity or Vertical 2.3) run at low pressure of about 30psi be a kinda substitute for no suspension?

Also, I don't really have much of a problem climbing nasty trails; just getting down them. Sad ... so a good front tyre that tracks well through all manner of crap at low puff would be great.

In the mid 1990s, I used Panaracer Smoke Lite 1.9 (rear) and Dart 2.1 HC (front). These were fine but of course, they don't make them any more and I understand that the re-vamped Classic are no substitute for the real thing. That having been said, I do actually have a Smoke Lite unused but with technology moving along .... Question

These tyres would be used exclusively off-road, as we have other wheels with 1.5 slicks of road use.

Grateful for suggestions Cool
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mr-marty-martin



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have bontrage jones mud x's

realy good mud tyres with great reviews...

realy grippy on all the technical stuff and realy grippy

and the mud clearance on them is superb Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve, wouldnt it be worth spending a few a few quid on a set of S/H forks from e-bay for your Marin? or do you want to keep it old school original
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys

Abzz, TBH, the majority of the riding on the Marin is done on road. The set-up is more like a messenger / road bike with straight bars and a flat stem. The off-road aspect would be in the minority and as such, I'll keep it with rigid forks.

I've been reading a few of the MTBR reviews on tyres without much success, as they seem to be quite contrasting. However, as Marty seems to like these, I'll research the Bonny Jones' a bit more - I'm kinda impressed with their Road Warrior 1.5's for road use - I have tried Conti Ultra Gator 1.2 for road but to avoid snake-bite, I have to have about 90psi in them and with the roads being what they are, I'd have to go to my dentist to replace my fillings weekly!! Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm making progress. Cool

Unfortunately not much info on the Jones', Marty but I'm seriously considering some Maxxis Swamp Things, 2.1 rear and 2.3 front.

Although highly spoken of in MTBR for wet conditions, anyone used these in dry-ish loose stuff?

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive saw loads of reviews heres one

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/tyres/product/mud-x- 2in-9241

and another

http://www.bikemagic.com/review/reviewproduct/mps/rpn/45014/prod/Bontr ager_Mud-X/rcn/132/rgn/6/v/1/



get them you wont be disapointed, i got mine 40 for the pair
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, Marty. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have PanaRacer Fire Xc Pro.I have a 1.8 i think it is on my back & 2.1 on the front They have Award Winning Grip in Every Condition, Class Mud Shreading Design on a Test in a mag i have they got 10/10

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes big tyres on ridgid bikes are ace.
2.3 isn't that big though.

2.5" upwards if you can fit them in the frame/forks.
Conti Diesels spring to mind as cheap and big.

DH tyres will let you run lower pressures (sub20) without pinch flatting (as easily)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John, I'm keeping my eye on a used pair of Fire XC Pro and have just won a Dart 2.1. I now realise that I may have to chop and change a bit for different conditions.

That having been said, I wouldn't mind a phat 2.35/2.4 directional front with wire bead at about 25psi puff to compensate for my rigid forks - on my wish list! Cool Gap between front forks is only about 2.8 inches.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just received my retro Panaracer Smoke Dart 2.1 HC and fitted it along with my 'been waiting' Smoke Lite 1.9 rear - YAY!! Razz These are 1990s originals, not the jazzed-up 'Classic' thoughtless re-vamps.

That'll get me out of 'crap rubber' mode but I'm still on the lookout for other stuff. Based upon John's high opinion of the Fire XC Pro, I'll go for a used pair of 2.1 / 2.4.

Testing tomorrow, even though I still have my 'Man Flu' (the serious version, of course!) Wink Very Happy As a safeguard, I shall be wearing more Lycra than the whole of the Royal Ballet !!! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will lookout for any UFO reports around heathrow then Steve Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be 'Unidentified Fart, Old' or 'U Fell Off' Question
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use kenda navagels and love them for cross country
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I eventually settled (after the bad experience with the antique Dart Confused ) for Panaracer Cinder 2.1 rear and 2.25 front. Quite nice! Razz
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