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Attila
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The only glitch is your missus's purchase(dropper)
I had one for about a month,and I never used it once.Down or Uphill,and I would be surprised if anyone uses it to fulll effect.
I knocked 60 quid off it and Gumtreed its ass.
So unnecessary it beggars belief.
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My dropper post is up and down like a whores drawers every time I'm on the bike. It is by far and away the biggest single improvement to a mountain bike I have experienced in the 22ish years I've been mountain biking. As soon as the trail starts to drop and you stand up, get the saddle out of the way and improve your control of the bike.
Each to their own of course but that comment really confused me.
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KTM540
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ +1
Fantastic bit of kit the dropper !?
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I get what you're saying, but over washboard surfaces I actually grip the saddle with my thighs to increase control of the bike.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Doomanic wrote: | | I get what you're saying, but over washboard surfaces I actually grip the saddle with my thighs to increase control of the bike. |
That's an interesting comment, how do you feel the control is improved?
On rougher terrain I try to let the bike move around as much as possible underneath me, using my arms and legs as additional suspension and pumping it through compressions etc. I find that if you lock yourself to the bike its harder to react to sudden changes of direction or drops, by staying loose and relaxed I feel more in control.
I'm not saying I'm right by the way, just what works for me.
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it's just that it stops the saddle battering my thighs, it's only something I really noticed when I used the dropper.
I only do it on very high frequency, small stuff. On the big whoops and drops I al also use my arms and legs as extra suspension.
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CarnaptiousB'Stard
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | CarnaptiousB'Stard wrote: |
The only glitch is your missus's purchase(dropper)
I had one for about a month,and I never used it once.Down or Uphill,and I would be surprised if anyone uses it to fulll effect.
I knocked 60 quid off it and Gumtreed its ass.
So unnecessary it beggars belief.
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My dropper post is up and down like a whores drawers every time I'm on the bike. It is by far and away the biggest single improvement to a mountain bike I have experienced in the 22ish years I've been mountain biking. As soon as the trail starts to drop and you stand up, get the saddle out of the way and improve your control of the bike.
Each to their own of course but that comment really confused me. |
I tried it and thought best to ditch it .It seemed an expensive unnecessary evil in the end adding weight and maintenance.
In 24 years doing this sh*t,you just know what height to put your seat so you don't squash yer bo***cks
You have been doing it almost as long as me,how did you survive not banging your pills all that time ?
Instinct and correct seat placement I imagine.
I see them like 3D Television.Sure ,it's a great thing at the time,but the novelty soon wears off.And the thought of everyone looking like dicks watching TV with big glasses on,sinks in as a stupid idea.
I expect people won't bother with that little extra lever over time.
Roll on the next new innovation!!!!! 
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| CarnaptiousB'Stard wrote: |
You have been doing it almost as long as me,how did you survive not banging your pills all that time ?
Instinct and correct seat placement I imagine.
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By stopping to drop the saddle when it gets steep or technical, then putting it back up to the correct height afterwards. The dropper post means I can do the same without having to stop.
I raced XC when I was at school, at the time I tried to find a 'happy medium' seat post position where I could pedal efficiently but still move around the bike unimpeded (stopping while racing is a big no no  ). I ended up with a muscular issue in my right knee where my leg wasn't being extended properly, this pulled my kneecap out of position and has ground most of the cartilage out. I now have Osteo Arthritis as a result.
Having a dropper post means I can pedal properly without risk of further injury and get the saddle out of the way quickly if I need to without stopping. I've just bought a 2nd hand XC hardtail for winter training, a dropper post will be my first upgrade for it...
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KTM540
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| Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:08 am Post subject: |
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If the majority of the riding you do tends be "off road leisure cycling" type stuff, or general XC/trails .. then no, there's really no need for the added expense etc, and the benefits not recognised, tho the more techy the terrain, and especially the drops/descents you tackle, or tackle with more confidence I should say, a dropper starts to make more sense ..
The industry has been pretty quick to recognise this for bikes over a certain price bracket, realising that the majority of riders looking at bikes in that range can see the benefits, and expect it as standard equipment now
I only have a dropper on one bike, the other has now been relegated to softer duties, as it was starting to get a bit of a hammering, which is where the longer travel, dropper equipped bike made a lot of sense and was worth every penny for that reason
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CarnaptiousB'Stard
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | CarnaptiousB'Stard wrote: |
You have been doing it almost as long as me,how did you survive not banging your pills all that time ?
Instinct and correct seat placement I imagine.
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By stopping to drop the saddle when it gets steep or technical, then putting it back up to the correct height afterwards. The dropper post means I can do the same without having to stop.
I raced XC when I was at school, at the time I tried to find a 'happy medium' seat post position where I could pedal efficiently but still move around the bike unimpeded (stopping while racing is a big no no ). I ended up with a muscular issue in my right knee where my leg wasn't being extended properly, this pulled my kneecap out of position and has ground most of the cartilage out. I now have Osteo Arthritis as a result.
Having a dropper post means I can pedal properly without risk of further injury and get the saddle out of the way quickly if I need to without stopping. I've just bought a 2nd hand XC hardtail for winter training, a dropper post will be my first upgrade for it... |
Ah right ,it makes sense then.
I take all your points guys on board.Like yourselves,I ride pretty damn hard.
I suppose how we do it matters not,with whatever equipment
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CarnaptiousB'Stard
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| KTM540 wrote: | If the majority of the riding you do tends be "off road leisure cycling" type stuff, or general XC/trails .. then no, there's really no need for the added expense etc, and the benefits not recognised, tho the more techy the terrain, and especially the drops/descents you tackle, or tackle with more confidence I should say, a dropper starts to make more sense ..
The industry has been pretty quick to recognise this for bikes over a certain price bracket, realising that the majority of riders looking at bikes in that range can see the benefits, and expect it as standard equipment now
I only have a dropper on one bike, the other has now been relegated to softer duties, as it was starting to get a bit of a hammering, which is where the longer travel, dropper equipped bike made a lot of sense and was worth every penny for that reason |
See above
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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New grips fitted today; Ergon GE1 Enduro. Hopefully I'll get to try them out tomorrow.
I also fitted 3 volume reducers to the rear shock. Should make it more progressive. Dead simple to do as well. 
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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For a change I went to Cannock Chase today and Followed the Dog and Spanked the Monkey.
Start of the Monkey
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've also decided that I like my climbs how I like my women; short and easy...
I also like my descents how I like my women; curvy and lumpy.
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Doomanic
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| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Back to the FoD today to ride some more familiar trails and play with the suspension settings (which didn't happen...)
Did two laps of the Verderers and started the Red (which has changed a lot since I last did it) but had to bail when my Sciatica flared up. 
And finally, just to scare the younger forumites, a sweaty fat bloke...
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