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Steve Kish



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:37 am    Post subject: Time to take a back seat .... Reply with quote

I'm spending a bit too much time on various bike forums and unfortunately I've decided to put MTBE towards the back burner, at least for a while.

This 'Road Bike Discussion' section seems to have stagnated a bit with only a few contributors, usually just a record of the Strava-recorded rides that members have been doing. As I'm a non-Strava person, this doesn't really do a lot for my interest.

As some may know, I'm a fan of the pro race calendar and despite my efforts to involve a few members in discussions about the classic one day races and the grand tours, there seems to be no interest - the Tour de France has just finished with the fourth British wins in five years, Froome has just won his third ... and there's no mention of it here at all. Sad

So. I'll take my leave with thanks for all the time spent here. I may occasionally re-visit these pages just to see if you're all behaving yourselves but for now, I'll wish you all safe and happy riding.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve

I'm sorry to read that, l for one, enjoy your input and sheer knowledge

I know that I've not contributed a lot to the pro cycling debates, but recently I've had a lot of computer issues, & it's hard enough getting online at times, to update long-running threads


I hope to see you back, you can always find me on the 'CycleChat' forum (using my name on there too)

Or, FB, if you use that?


Good luck, but not, goodbye

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite so Steve!

There is something magical about the freedom of belting along on two wheels (one of the greatest inventions of all time) oblivious to all the routine stresses of life, and, often enough, lost in our own little world.

Like you, I neither know nor care why anybody would want to chain themselves to this rigid Strava discipline, and destroy that illusion of freedom.

Happy riding mate. And yes, get back into off road riding to really avoid all those (traffic especially) hassles of life!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad to see you go. I like to read your posts. i don,t always respond and don't have an active role in road racing but always find you interesting to read. your wisdom will be sorely missed where i am concerned.

Take good care out there.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your input over time Steve, you have been a great asset to the ROAD section with lots of helpful and well delivered advice.

Pop back whenever you feel the urge, you'll be more than welcome. Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

c'ya
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear you are not posting anymore Steve as you have given me great sound advice in the past. I must admit I spend more time watching the TDF and the Classics than actually riding my bike Embarassed Its probably people like me who read the forum but don't actually contribute by posting - you take care and all the best in the future Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the TdF but saw no mention of it on here and since I don't know what I'm talking about I thought best to just enjoy it rather than start a topic on it. They do go to some amazing places many of which I've jotted down for future reference should I ever manage to get myself to France.

Speaking of TdF does anyone make sense of how Greg Van Avermaet just won the road race at the Olympics when it was supposed to be a mainly mountainous course and he's meant to be a sprinter? No sign of the renowned Froome in the winning lineup there which was disappointing. Seems like Greg is a bit of a wildcard with all of his stage wins this year at TdF considering the type of rider he is?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have been surprised if Froome would have got a medal.

He's a grand tour rider and wins these with high places day after day after day on stages of about 180-190km, not in single stage races of 230+km. IIRC he's never won a classic one-day race as his strength comes from his Team Sky support riders helping him in his war of attrition against other riders. If you want a true classics rider who doesn't do well in the grand tours but excels on hard single day classics, look at Fabian Cancellara.

If you want to see Froome do better, watch the individual TT on Wednesday in a discipline that he knows well, strangely enough as does Cancellara.

Also, to put things into context, the Olympic road race is pretty second rate. Unlike some of the classic one-day races such as Milan-San Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix etc, where it's 100% contested by full-time World Tour professionals, the Olympics is flooded with no-hopers just representing their countries at a level far below the pros.

Before Atlanta in 1996 when it was open purely to amateurs, it was generally regarded as the biggest stepping stone to a professional contract, usually resulting in a failed and short pro careers - the ideal example was in Los Angeles in 1984 with USA's Alexei Grewal. He won gold and nothing much else after that!

As for GVA, he had a good and lucky day. He's a classy one-day rider who was dead in the water a few dozen km before the end but got his second wind with Fuglsang and they worked well together.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bang on the buck as usual Steve. Wink


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Also, to put things into context, the Olympic road race is pretty second rate. Unlike some of the classic one-day races such as Milan-San Remo, Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix etc, where it's 100% contested by full-time World Tour professionals, the Olympics is flooded with no-hopers just representing their countries at a level far below the pros.


Was just saying exactly the same to my son a few hours ago.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Kish wrote:
If you want a true classics rider who doesn't do well in the grand tours but excels on hard single day classics, look at Fabian Cancellara.



Before Atlanta in 1996 when it was open purely to amateurs, it was generally regarded as the biggest stepping stone to a professional contract, usually resulting in a failed and short pro careers - the ideal example was in Los Angeles in 1984 with USA's Alexei Grewal. He won gold and nothing much else after that!


I was hoping for Cancellara to do something in the road-race

Lizzie undoubtedly far too distracted, with recent events

Horror of the day was the crash of Annemiek van Vleuten Shocked Shocked Shocked
Nasty!, that said, we see riders who have RTC'd with similar injuries

Alexis Grewal?
His brother, Rishie, was a cracking MTB racer of the early 90's (riding for GT, then Yeti, I think??)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard A Thackeray wrote:
I was hoping for Cancellara to do something in the road-race


Hurrah!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

What a glorious career end!!

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/olympics/rio-olympics-mens- time-trial-273336

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard A Thackeray wrote:
Richard A Thackeray wrote:
I was hoping for Cancellara to do something in the road-race


Hurrah!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy

What a glorious career end!!

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/olympics/rio-olympics-mens- time-trial-273336



Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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watch the individual TT on Wednesday in a discipline that he knows well, strangely enough as does Cancellara.


You first heard it here from the old bloke! Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Kish wrote:
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watch the individual TT on Wednesday in a discipline that he knows well, strangely enough as does Cancellara.


You first heard it here from the old bloke! Mr. Green


there is no like button on here so...

Like. Very Happy

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